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The political scientist, the adviser of the President of Ukraine Dmitry Ignatevich Vydrin tells to the Internet portal “the World and We” about the reasons of events on May, 9th in Lvov, "passport" scandal with Romania and Hungary and about clan specificity of the Ukrainian power.

- Two countries, Romania and Hungary, now use the same tactics, namely the issue of passports under concessionary terms, in your opinion whether it means that there is some trend concerning Ukraine from these countries and alliances into which they enter?

The essence of this question is simple – people will always aspire to have possibility to go in those countries, where the level and quality of life are higher, there is social security and chances to get good education. Therefore, if Ukraine lags behind neighboring countries, so the notes of protest and terrible declarations of the Ministers of Foreign Affairs wouldn’t help. If the people can't use the preferential mechanism of passports receipt of these countries, they will use the possibilities illegally to leave or receive documents under corruption schemes. After all the corruption exists and in EU. It is not a secret that it is possible to make the residence permit almost of any EU country for the certain sum, it is a matter only of the sum. The diplomats are obliged to solve these questions, it is their duty. And our politicians, country leaders should understand that no cordons will constrain the people if the situation in our country strikingly differs from a situation in other neighboring countries. If it is the small distinctions expressed in percentage of lag on a standard of living, so people are ready to suffer if it is seen the fine, light future. But if the lag is higher in times and there is no any prospects, they will always find a way how to overcome the borders. Also they will always find such way. I don't remember a case when people would like to leave the country and wouldn't find a way. Even from the USSR they swam away on beach mattresses through the Black sea with a bottle of mineral water and nobody couldn't stop them.

- What is your relation to the sharpest statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Hungary in connection with controls which spent the Security Service of Ukraine among the Hungarian citizens in Ukraine? It was told in it that Budapest won't suffer such relation to the compatriots. Whether is it the rough intervention in internal affairs of Ukraine?
I met after that incident with the chief of Security Service of Ukraine of Zakarpatye - Vasily Sitor is very qualified expert. And he said to me that there were no intimidations. Besides, I met with the Hungarians and the ambassador of Hungary. He has told that, most likely, it was misunderstanding – the people didn’t understand each other. And there is nothing to discuss if it was misunderstanding. Misunderstanding is simply crossed out, deduced for brackets and further it is necessary to operate on understanding. It seems to me, at present these statements are settled from both parts.

- The fact that two countries have started to use the same methods simultaneously, whether it says that the given situation isn't a single-step strategy and the subsequent actions, for example, territorial claims are assumed in relation to Ukraine?

I don't have sensation of coordination of it from some uniform center. It seems to me that these actions of Romania and Hungary on collecting of the compatriots lie down in a trend of ruling there commands. Now both Romania and Hungary have the commands in power which made the collecting of the Hungarians and the Romanian, living outside of the native land as the main selective slogan, or, at least, have the social casework of them. As for collecting of lands – the first who will start to be indignant, is NATO because one of the conditions of the entry into the NATO is an absence of territorial claims to other countries. Therefore, if any of the countries will expose territorial claims to NATO, so at once it will be in turn on an exception of NATO. It isn't compatible to the status of membership in an alliance. We sometimes sharply criticize NATO’s actions and I told too many sharp things about NATO in connection with Yugoslavia, Kosovo. But it is necessary to recognize that NATO, as any organization, has weaknesses, inadequate sides and, on the contrary, strong and adequate mechanisms of action. And the strength sides of NATO, I think, are that the countries which do not have the territorial claims can only enter it. Therefore here it is necessary to calm the hotheads. And the fact that the ruling classes of these countries use such “brawny” rhetoric of protection of the compatriots is not so much political, as a propaganda line. It is possible to argue with this line or to agree. By the way, it would be desirable, that Ukraine carried out the same brawny policy in relation to compatriots, as some neighboring countries. Such policy now, for example, is spent also by the Russian Federation, having declaring that the protection of compatriots is priority. One of the main tasks of the Russian Federation is the collecting of “spiritually close” Russians and not “by birth” Russians.

- In your opinion, what was the main reason of the party “Freedom” actions of events on May, 9 in Lvov? They assert that it could be arrival of ten active workers from Odessa or the law of obligatory hanging of the copy of a Red banner of the Victory on all official establishments during celebrating of May, 9th.

I think that neither the first, nor the second. I have many political aphorisms and including this one, “the politics becomes excited only when it goes from one power level to other power level”. I think that it is the main reason of these events. There is a sensation that the number of leaders of “Freedom” can jump from local power level to national power level. Therefore they try to enter the country into a pre-election fever. That is if there was no reason on May 9, they would find other reason. For example, if the power tells that it is authorized to use only national symbolism, they would tell that want to use only Banderovite banners etc. This political force has felt that it is on an ascending trend and now makes all efforts to keep the trend ascension, not to admit its falling. These are the main motivating factors of party “Freedom”.

And if to consider the statements of inhabitants of Odessa, the members of “Freedom” came to Odessa and Crimea for many times. And, they consider these regions as priority for themselves. On May, 9th apparently, 4 persons have arrived to Lvov from Crimea. Hardly they can frighten the members of “Freedom” if those brought the hundreds of people to Crimea. The members of “Freedom” are thinking people therefore they understand that if they come to other regions in hundreds, in thousand, so at least the people in tens will appear in their territory. Therefore their indignation was artificial and strummed enough. And they have been supported by those political forces, the rating of which, unlike “Freedom”, is fading. Therefore the members of “Freedom” used the day of May, 9th as strengthening of an ascending trend and other forces, for example, “Batkivshchina” of Yulia Timoshenko, were used not to descend from the political arena at all. And to shake a situation, so that the early election has taken place.

Though, the members of “Freedom” don't hurry up. It seems to them that the time works on them. They, probably, think that they can financially get stronger for one and a half year to forthcoming elections because they have 3-4 base areas where business seriously supports them. And “Batkivshchina” has no financial base actually. “Batkivshchina” has almost no “the political land” on which they lead the process, on which they can use local business, local sources of financing. Therefore they do everything to shake a situation on early election. And here the combination of those who wants to raise even more the rating and those who are afraid to “be blown off” definitively, has resulted to all these events.

- The charges are expressed that the Party of Regions supported All-Ukrainian Union “Freedom” in order to weaken the influence of Yulia Timoshenko in the western regions of Ukraine. Also that then “Freedom” went out of control of Party of Regions. Is it corresponds to a reality?

Probably, it is not the charges, as the policy can accuse only of illegal actions. How is it possible to accuse him of that he considers effective for the own rating? Therefore it is, more likely, not charge but an explanation. The Party of Regions is not a certain firm monolith, where everybody has one point of view. It is many groups of influence and many separate conceptual centers, each of which gives its concept. But I don't know that any document, for example, the declaration on party “Freedom” support was accepted at the level of the Party of Regions. I am not a member of any party at present time, do not go on political councils but often visit the buffet of Party of Regions. There is a good buffet there but also I never heard that there was a political council on which they discussed to support the party “Freedom” or not (and the buffets, as a rule, the most authentic sources of the information). Thus I don't exclude that some conceptual and analytical centers which exist at each strong player, could offer such strategy. Each rich politician has a group of experts, analysts and journalists today. One work on his personal PR, others, partially, on judgement of a situation for him and partially, for party. I don't exclude that there are people in the Party of Regions, strong and influential who considered that the support of “Freedom” will delay, “suck away” the voices from the main opponents. I think that now they already repent of the errors or that they have believed the experts who interpreted a situation in this way.

- In connection with events happened on May 9, whether any actions are proposed on restriction of activity of party “Freedom” at level of the president and the government?

I don't think that the president and the government can limit the activity of any party. There is a Constitution. If the party operates in the constitutional field, so it is possible to limit its activity only having changed the Constitution. It is impossible to make so that the Constitution extended on everything, except one party. If the party breaks the law, it answers according to the law. And if doesn't break, it is necessary to change only the Constitution to influence for it. So the mechanisms of application of the power are possible only in the case that the law is broken. Several criminal cases are raised concerning concrete persons on the events in Lvov. Those who have broken something will answer in court. The president can't incur the function of the judge, especially the prime minister. If somebody has broken – let he bear the criminal or managerial responsibility.

- According to the recent data of TOP 100 rating of the richest people of Ukraine, their total fortune has grown on third. Thus the parallel data is given that the prices in Ukraine have grown on third. In your opinion, whether these phenomena are connected somehow between each other? The reduction of a standard of living of two thirds of the Ukrainians and growth of conditions of oligarchs?

Actually, it is not the communicating vessels. It is impossible to tell roughly that there is one pocket at poor, not rich people and one pocket - at rich people. And rich people shift to their pocket from a pocket of rather poor. Probably, there are more difficult processes. But the fact is that Ukraine is the clan country and neo-feudal. And this is a trouble of Ukraine. And sooner or later Ukraine should try to become the usual market economy where there is no place to clan preferences, clan bonus for any political activity. And where there is a market which in one way or another regulates a situation in favor of the most skillful, successful, advanced businessmen. For now we are divided not only into mental zones in Ukraine, we are divided into spheres of influence of clans. One clans supervise the trumpet manufacture, others chemistry and titan, the third oil, the fourth – gas etc. And this is not normal. All this should be supervised by the law and the market. These are two basic things. As Weber expressed his opinion, “What is the strong Market? It is strong police, the strong law and a strong competition”. Therefore, there will be a competition within the limits of the law – the competition will define who is the most worthy on the riches.

Today's situation is abnormal – the clans have preferences, clans have own fractions, clans are presented in parliament. In my opinion, it is fraught with enormous economic and political risks. It is necessary to take the business out a policy immediately. For this purpose, firstly, the elimination of anonymity of business is necessary, in my opinion. The problem of Ukraine is that 90 % of business in Ukraine is anonymous. It allows the rich people to sit in parliament, saying that they don't have business. Though all know that this deputy monopolized one sphere of economy, and this one - another. It is necessary, that a certain memorandum to business has been put forward at power level where business needs to be defined – either you are the economists and are engaged in economy, or you are the football players and are engaged in football management or you are the politicians. But if you went from business to a policy, then sit every day in parliament, vote every day and every day we see you in the TV set on TV channel “Rada”.

The main trouble of Ukraine is the joining of clannish and economic and political component. Ukraine won't be the normal state while it is. And sooner or later it can run into the anti-feudal revolution, as all feudal countries left the feudalism situation through the revolutions. Presently we have a possibility to go the evolutionary way. For this purpose it is necessary to name a situation fairly – that we have the neo-feudal, neo-clan country. And to show how to leave from this without shocks and revolutions, without squares, without “marketplaces”. And without the damnations of the future generation.

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Author: Михаил Михайлов

Publication date : 02 September 2011 12:23

Source: The world and we

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